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  • Group Story comments
    by Scott at 23:02 on 04 September 2003
    If anyone has any comments on any aspects of the group story (e.g what they think, how it could be improved)please put your comments here

    Scott
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by bluesky3d at 12:05 on 12 September 2003
    Although I would not wish to prejudge the end quality of the masterpiece too early - I think it proves if we did not already know - that unless people have a common idea in mind - and are in touch spiritually and intellectually - that attempting to write as a group, although fun, is certainly not going to end up being very coherent or win any prizes.

    Andrew )

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    above sounds a bit negative...ok idea 1. maybe if we were to write with an end in mind... perhaps no more than a total of twenty contributions so that each contributor can then judge how far they are from the end - therefore they can then move the piece along to a conclusion at the appropriate pace?

    idea 2. limit contributions from any one author to two in total?
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Ellenna at 18:15 on 12 September 2003
    Hi, yes i have to agree.. if we don't have a vague goal in sight it can ramble on in a very unsure way.. its interesting though!

    Ellie

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    and of course i know it's It's.. super conscious now after your very comprehensive lesson on punctuation Andrew :)
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Scott at 23:21 on 12 September 2003
    I totally agree with both of you but my personal attempt was not really to create a story put together by a collection of people, as you have said without some kind of idea the story will just drift as sea without direction (however that is why I put this comment page separate to give people the chance to discuss such directions).

    What I was searching to achieve was a challenge, testing peoples writing ability and see more importantly the depth of peoples imagination, how one can totally turn a situation around or how another may come up with a way to help a character escape from a impossible situation dreamt up by the previous writer.

    Just a bit of mind relieving fun


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    I would be interested to know where other writers involved see the story going, have you got a set idea what the story is about and so writing to that end or are you literary just following up the last written line with the first thing you imagine?

    I haven't got a cemented theme; it began about a brother who was one of three brothers who fight out against the local hard men. These brothers hold the moral high ground and look down there noses at the local thugs and believed they could beat them with their intelligent but after suffering a painful and humiliating public beating they become enraged due to their loss of supremacy and reputation and get swept up with the madness of seeking revenge in a spectacular way but this too goes to shit resulting in the youngest being accidentally killed and the remaining two being hunted by those responsible. The beginning line I wrote was

    Michael walked into the room he had only ever heard of from the mouths of drunken fools who lives had been wreaked by their involvement with the likes of Mr Shanks. His mouth felt dry and his hands dripped wet, he was going against all that society labelled him.

    And this was going to be where it started half way through the story so I could back reference but obviously due to the imaginations of others the story took a drastic change from the begin set presumptions of myself and that is what I like about this group project.

    Now I see the story being about a man sentenced to a thousand terrible deaths in an advanced virtual reality machine for a crime made up by a organisation who don't want him to reveal a much required secret but do not want him dead until they know it and since he was apprehended by the authorities before they could get him set him up so he would be sentenced to such a faith, suspended in cyber space for many a years thus giving them plenty of time to get to him.

    No doubt this story will change but perhaps others may want to work to this end?


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    Note: The last three sections were not suppose to be bold but I can't change the bastard thing!
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by bluesky3d at 07:25 on 13 September 2003
    I saw the story being about a guy having a sex change operation - because he was a sex offender - in some future society where they turn men into women for committing such an offence.

    So on post number twenty when he opens his pyjama top .. My God! there they are .. his breasts!

    A )
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Nell at 09:04 on 13 September 2003
    I found myself wishing that it hadn't degenerated into blood and gore. I think that's unnecessary - there was a wonderful air of mysterious menace at the beginning, but the moment the violence becomes explicit that's lost and the story becomes lurid and like something out of horror comic. I think if I was going to do this in a serious way with the idea of producing a viable story I'd want to work with writers I could trust to keep the story going in a way I approved of. But as someone said, this was only a bit of fun so maybe I'm being overly sensitive.
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by bluesky3d at 09:19 on 13 September 2003
    Yes Nell I agree ... but it could be easily edited into something more worthwhile by removing those bits .. without adding anything I mean - just deleting the bits that are OTT and lose those. Shall I have an quite attempt?

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    I agree that it shouldn't go OTT as it immediately loses credibilty .. not that you're over sensitive :o) A
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by bluesky3d at 09:25 on 13 September 2003

    Here is a very quick attempt with no thought ... just a few omissions of OTT stuff


    Michael walked into the room he had only ever heard of from the mouths of drunken fools who lives had been wreaked by their involvement with the likes of Mr Shanks. His mouth felt dry and his hands dripped wet, he was going against all that society labelled him. The room was lit by a single candle balanced precariously on the edge of the mantelpiece opposite him. It bowed and flickered as he entered, casting ugly shadows across the white-washed walls. A tiny man with silver-blue hair and a narrow grey face looked up from the table.

    "You came, then," he hissed. Michael felt the bile rise to his throat. His mouth gaped and shut like a goldfish in its bowl, but no sound emerged. Mesmerized he stared at the dwarfish figure at the table. He watched as the thin lips parted in a chuckle.'

    Yes, you came. They all come to me in the end.'The dark shark eyes of the little man bored into Michael's soul rendering him unable to rationalise the situation.. He blinked in an effort to restore normality to his thoughts but he felt his thoughts were no longer his own…The room stank of drink and smoke, though behind these familiar smells, was another odour, strange and sinister, an odour Michael had once known but pushed to the outer edges of his consciousness; but which was now teasing, testing his memory.

    'You are aware of the dangers? Other than increasing your pain threshold you may experience disorientation, fixated vision, pulsating auditory and visual hallucinations, much as if waves were travelling up your body or as if you were twisting or spinning. Disorientation increases rapidly and the pulsing sounds increase. I strongly advise you not to open your eyes during the procedure.'Michael briefly woke from his divulging living dream fed to him by the man operating the machine besides him, accompanied by a nurse.“

    'Doctor this exercise is punishment not voluntary, I don’t want to see, hear or FEEL A THING!”

    “Well that’s enough of that Mr Green…nurse sedate him please…see you in ten minutes Michael” said the doctor with a wry grin that was followed through with a glare of deserving deliverance.

    (Two days later)

    Michael had been locked for what seemed an eternity; he could not escape, not even if he had wanted to.Michael knew the second he woke he would run and then never stopMichael was not aware of his offence, of any need for punishment. He knew he had walked into the room apparently without being compelled or forced in any way. Yet what was happening to him seemed inevitable, as it had to many before him.

    He had learnt the wisdom of never stopping from his strange childhood.And the sound of his own heart beating was an ever present accompaniment to the familiar mounting panic..His only hope was to hit the ground running. He knew how to wake himself up to the unreal world, and he had to prepare his mind, and his legs, to cope with it. He started to run, and only then did he pinch himself.... and realise it was that ghastly dream back again, he called for his Ma.

    "Oh young Michael" laughed his mother, "are the bad dreams troubling you again?"The young teenager looked upon his mother with sheltered eyes as the early morning sun poured through the window goldenly. His heart brushed away the coating of terror as it basked in the warmth delivered by his mothers beautiful smile. As a single tear rolled down the youngsters face his mother wiped it away with her wonderful gentle touch and hugged him with every last strength in her arms. He was so happy.

    But when he took off his pyjama top.. there they were! My God!
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by bluesky3d at 09:39 on 13 September 2003
    If one is looking for a framework - authors should try to be internally consistency.. eg if he hears things from drunks.. then perhaps its a little perverse he's a young teenager? But perhaps I'm missing the point?

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    to be ... internally consistent I meant
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Scott at 10:48 on 13 September 2003
    To me Michael was an adult, I made him a young teenager in the section when he embraces his mother to create a false sense of security; it was in fact just another nightmare world he had entered.

    However, I liked what Bluesky3d attempted and I agree it could have been better as a whole if it had not degenerated into horror, I know I am mainly responsible for that but acting on the basis of what I originally perceived the exercise to be I was just following up from previous sections and seeing how many times the running story could be twisted and turned

    I would like to run to one theme however and if we all know an end and work to it we may get something fascinating, we can still add twists and changes but nothing too drastically outside the box of the running hypothesis

    Are there any particular storylines you would like to write together for?

    We could begin again under the forum title 'Group story two', from the point

    I want to start a group story, I'll start it simply and then it can pick up pace if the ball rolls.
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    Michael walked into the room he had only ever heard of from the mouths of drunken fools who lives had been wreaked by their involvment with the likes of Mr Shanks. His mouth felt dry and his hands dripped wet, he was going against all that society labelled him.
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Scott at 10:51 on 13 September 2003
    It is interesting how Bluesky3d thought this was about a sex change, that idea never entered my head, which is why when I notice you wrote about him looking at his chest I entered the bit about his computerized clock counting down his sentence
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Nell at 11:59 on 13 September 2003
    Andrew, your editing certainly improves the way it reads, although I think it could be taken further still as there are typos and repetitions that need eliminating.

    Scott, I think that although this was an interesting and revealing exercise, it's not something I'd want to get too involved in. It reminds me of a life drawing class in which one had three or four minutes to draw from the model before moving on to someone else's drawing and repeating the procedure until everyone had worked on each drawing. The results were horrific!
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Becca at 06:33 on 15 September 2003
    I have to agree with Nell about the rapid decline into gore, which is why I tried to subvert it into a dream, but Scott 'you weren't having none of it!' And I confess, as well, that I did just read the last posting and say the first thing that came into my head. What is interesting about this is how it's made us think about how it could be done more seriously, but it may be true that the writers need to have something in common like a similar liking for a particular type of story.
  • Re: Group Story comments
    by Scott at 22:05 on 15 September 2003
    Well I’ve started ‘Group story 2’ and brought it back to the more serious mysterious origins and perhaps we can all start again, have a look and see what I mean. Like you said if we discuss what we would like to achieve from the story and stick to a guide line we could perhaps produce yet another interesting project but this time for different reasons and I promise not to degenerate it into gore

    Scott
  • Your story
    by Scott at 11:09 on 20 September 2003
    I want to take this in the direction you lot expressively hoped for, I want an air of mystery and intrigue so the reader doesn't quite know what is happening but is interested enough to want to find out

    Hopefully the story now in 'Group story 2' is beginning to follow that path and will be nothing at all like the original 'Group story'.

    I think it is going as you wished so check it out and you might be interested yourselves