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  • Re: Comparatives
    by EmmaD at 21:57 on 24 September 2006
    Well, I can only really do it by example, and there are times when either would do. But here goes:

    'How can I get the room warm?'
    'It's not difficult: try lighting the fire.'

    'What can I do to help?'
    'Well I haven't any matches, but you could try to light the fire with a spill.'

    I think it's something to do with whether the verb 'light' is the main point of the action - to warm the room - or the verb 'try' - because the fire mightn't light after all.

    Works for 'try to chop'/'try chopping' down the tree, I think. Does it work for other verbs than 'try' though, I wonder?

    Emma
  • Re: Comparatives
    by Account Closed at 23:08 on 24 September 2006
    From the Internet (Fowler's is in the other room and I can't be bothered to fetch it) ...

    Here is a brief review of the differences between gerunds and infinitives.

    Gerunds are formed with ING:
    walking, talking, thinking, listening

    Infinitives are formed with TO:
    to walk, to talk, to think, to listen

    Both gerunds and infinitives can be the subject of a sentence:
    Writing in English is difficult.
    To write in English is difficult.

    Both gerunds and infinitives can be the object of a verb:
    I like writing in English.
    I like to write in English.

    Only gerunds can be the object of a preposition:
    We are talking about writing in English.

    It is often difficult to know when to use a gerund and when to use an infinitive. These guidelines may help you:

    Gerunds are often used when actions are real, concrete or completed::
    I stopped smoking.
    (The smoking was real and happened until I stopped.)

    Infinitives are often used when actions are unreal, abstract, or future:
    I stopped to smoke.
    (I was doing something else, and I stopped; the smoking had not happened yet.)


    So "Try to light the fire" sounds like a general instruction in a scouting manual, referring to fires in general. "Try lighting the fire" refers to that fire there, in front of you.

    That's my guess, anyway.



  • Re: Comparatives
    by EmmaD at 06:14 on 25 September 2006
    Yes, that make sense: 'try to light the fire' is future/unreal and the fire may not light. Which is also why the distinction works with verbs like 'try' but not all verbs.

    Emma
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