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  • Pluperfect advice please
    by Bunbry at 19:25 on 25 November 2011
    I was recently asked to comment on a story which started:

    I had thought ‘falling in love at first sight’ is just a cliché.


    I suggested it should be 'was' not 'is', but now I'm having doubts!

    What do you think? Does a comma after 'thought' help?

    Nick
  • Re: Pluperfect advice please
    by EmmaD at 21:34 on 25 November 2011
    Yes, it should be 'was'.

    I had thought that "falling in love" was just a cliché, but when I met Barbara, I realised how wrong I had been.


    The whole narrative is in past tense, so the main narrative is simple past for the "present moment" of the narrative -

    when I met Barbara


    I realised


    with what I see is these days called "past perfect" (though I agree, I think of it as pluperfect, having learnt my grammar through French) for the bits which happened before the 'now' of the story -

    I had thought


    how wrong I had been


    although I wouldn't myself balk at that last bit being

    I realised how wrong I was


    since you could say that s/he was still thinking that being in love is a cliché, in the present moment of going into the party and meeting Barbara.

    Emma

    <Added>

    Although there shouldn't be a comma before 'Barbara'...

    <Added>

    Or rather, after 'Barbara'.

    It's late.
  • Re: Pluperfect advice please
    by Bunbry at 11:53 on 26 November 2011
    Thanks Emma, your advice is just what I was after!

    Nick
  • Re: Pluperfect advice please
    by EmmaD at 20:12 on 26 November 2011
    You're welcome!

    Emma