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  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Shika at 09:57 on 29 January 2007
    Colin, that's a good way of doing it. I have just decided that my prologue isnt really a prologue because it starts in the future. So I guess it could be called, 'Now'. Does that work? S
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Colin-M at 10:00 on 29 January 2007
    I don't see why not. How about something a little more obscure, "Reflective" or "Snapshot"? The term "prologue" sounds so damn ugly.
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by EmmaD at 10:17 on 29 January 2007
    In TMOL I started with something that could have been a prologue, but it developed into a series of snapshots at the end of each chapter. I was sorry that the US edition insisted on running them on from the main chapter, rather than letting them stand alone, as the UK edition was happy to do.

    Though I get terribly annoyed by doctrinaire ideas like 'prologues are old fashioned,' there's no denying that sometimes having to think and work round such questions can make you come up with some solutions - like Colin's - that open the door to all sorts of other interesting things.

    Emma
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by JoPo at 14:21 on 29 January 2007
    Dear Doctor

    I have terrible trouble writing completely linear narratives, although I feel I ought to write in a straight line.

    What do you suggest?

    'Worried of Highams Park'
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Account Closed at 15:25 on 29 January 2007
    Well, my novel has a prologue and an epilogue, so there! I do'nt think they're old fashioned at all - just a part of a novel. They can be useful to kick things off and wrap things off, but I wouldn't use them all the time.

    JB
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by EmmaD at 16:20 on 29 January 2007
    Dear Doctor

    I have terrible trouble writing completely linear narratives, although I feel I ought to write in a straight line.

    What do you suggest?

    'Worried of Highams Park'



    Dear Worried of Highams Park

    We all have this trouble from time to time, but there are a few writers who consider it to be entirely natural, and not something to be ashamed of. Please don't feel that you are in anyway inferior to the kind of writer who can develop a plot from beginning to end without having recourse to other centuries or universes.

    With best wishes

    Dr Parallel Narrative
    Non-linear Novelists Support Association.
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by mariaharris at 16:41 on 29 January 2007
    I think that the acid test is this: could the story work without the prologue? Is the information therein absolutely vital?

    I've dropped every prologue I've ever written, because the answer turned out to be...no.

    However, the editor that's taken me on has actually ASKED me to write one. She wants an action-packed opening to compensate for the rather emotionally draining first chapters.

    The interesting thing is that adding the prologue at this stage can throw up problems too...

    (I won't elaborate cos this is now a point of discussion with my editor)
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Colin-M at 17:25 on 29 January 2007
    Surely a reflection of the short term memory span of consumers

    It's like asking to include a car chase in Pride and Prejudice
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by EmmaD at 17:25 on 29 January 2007
    could the story work without the prologue? Is the information therein absolutely vital?


    Yes, that's the killer question isn't it?

    And your experience with this one is fascinating. It re-inforces my suspicion that the reason editors don't like them is because they're so often wrongly used, not because they're a bad idea per se.

    Emma
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by optimist at 20:52 on 29 January 2007
    They're probably only wrong if you don't get them right?

    S
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by EmmaD at 06:49 on 30 January 2007
    They're probably only wrong if you don't get them right?


    Couldn't agree more.

    Emma
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by VGw at 08:18 on 30 January 2007
    Euhm, I hope not. I have one and even though I could do without it, I don't want to since it gives the story an extra hook from the beginning.

    My prologue shows my main character shooting a man she clearly loves a lot. After this, the story begins and they are still happily married. The prologue sort of happens mid of the story and I kind of like how it puzzles the writer why she killed him.
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by ashlinn at 08:33 on 30 January 2007
    Personally, I don't like the term 'hook'. I know that I'm the exception because everyone in the industry uses it but it bothers me. My opinion is that readers are not fish and can see the bait for what it is.
    I'm not referring to any specific cases, just the general use of this term.
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Colin-M at 09:19 on 30 January 2007
    The alternative is reading the first two chapters of a book and thinking, "What the hell is this about?"

    I always thought the term "hook" meant to make it clear what the reader is buying into, so they can choose if it's worth reading in the first place, but I don't see why a good hook can't be included in the jacket blurb so if the writer wants, the first chapters can be slow.
  • Re: Prologues - do they seem old-fashioned?
    by Skippoo at 13:36 on 30 January 2007
    My young adult novel has a prologue, which I added later (after a few people suggested it) and I quite liked the result. My agent doesn't have a problem with it, and of the publishers we've subbed to so far, none have mentioned the prologue as a negative in their feedback.

    Cath
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