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  • Numbers
    by Zooter at 11:44 on 23 November 2006
    Starting a paragraph with a house number, should it be

    Seventeen Bevin Close, a parade of pensioner one-bedroomers...

    or

    17 Bevin Close, a parade of pensioner one-bedroomers...

    Cos to me the numeral looks better but I've got a feeling you're supposed to use words...

    It's in a character's 'voice ' if that makes any difference, slightly slangy but not much.

    Z
  • Re: Numbers
    by EmmaD at 12:25 on 23 November 2006
    Tricky.

    No, not tricky, just complicated: Hart's Rules to the rescue:

    a) house style for non-technical work would normally be something like 'spell out numbers up to 100',

    but b) it's 'customary not obligatory' to start a sentence with spelt out numbers, which is probably why you feel it should be words,

    But c) house numbers are always written in figures, which is why it looks right to you.

    Personally, spelling out house humbers looks so odd to me that I'd go for figures, though I agree that voices usually talk spelt-out not figures. .

    Emma
  • Re: Numbers
    by Zooter at 13:30 on 23 November 2006
    Emma

    So... you know stuff.

    Z
  • Re: Numbers
    by Dee at 18:54 on 23 November 2006
    I think that, if you spell out the number, you need a comma after it. For instance, if I read Seventeen Bassets Close, I would have implanted in my head the impression of 17 Basset hounds before I got to the word Close.

    Personally, I would write: Number 17, Bassets Close, to alert readers to the fact it’s a place and not a quantity.

    Dee
  • Re: Numbers
    by Zooter at 20:30 on 23 November 2006
    Thanks Dee

    Thing is the narrator wouldn't talk like that. Answer's maybe to start the sentence with something else.

    Z
  • Re: Numbers
    by Colin-M at 09:23 on 24 November 2006
    The big, brick house at the bottom of Belvin Close is a magnet to theives. The big "17" on the front might as well say, "easy pickings, boys".

    <Added>

    sorry, just bored. It's an alternative though.
  • Re: Numbers
    by Sappholit at 09:42 on 24 November 2006
    Thing is the narrator wouldn't talk like that. Answer's maybe to start the sentence with something else.


    I agree. One thing I have learnt, when you're struggling with something, is never be afraid to hit delete. It totally gets rid of the problem. Also, there were passages in my book that I laboured over, and then I realised the reason I was labouting and not getting it right, was simply because they shouldn't be there.

    Mind you, the 17/seventeen thing doesn't sound critical. There'll be a way of sorting it. FWIW, when I once did a publishing thing, I was told numbers 1-10 are always written in figures and all others in words, but there are exceptions, and I strongly suspect that door numbers are one of these.
  • Re: Numbers
    by EmmaD at 11:33 on 24 November 2006
    when you're struggling with something, is never be afraid to hit delete.


    Very, very true - when I've tried something upside down and inside out and back to front and it still won't bloody work, it's usually because the scene/character/theme shouldn't be there in the first place, and my instinct's recognised that even as my reason is kicking and screaming 'but I need it because...'

    But I wouldn't let this derail what you want to write. It's really a copy-editor's job to worry about this crap, and no-one's going to think the less of your piece because of it.

    Emma
  • Re: Numbers
    by Mischa at 19:29 on 24 November 2006
    Toni Morrison's Beloved starts "124 was spiteful."

  • Re: Numbers
    by Sappholit at 15:52 on 25 November 2006
    I LOVE THAT BOOK