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  • Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 14:17 on 10 June 2011
    Right then, I'm taking on the challenge of pitching without an agent (primarily in the UK), initially for non-fiction work, then for fiction.

    This week I have pitched/queried 11 non-fiction imprints/publishers/editors. I have talked to/researched around 40 likely suspects and come up with a top11 hit list. This has included approaching editors of the largest publishers via phone or email first to find out if they will accept short professional pitches from an author who won't get arsey with rejection.

    These are the publishers who categorically state agented queries only. Two thirds of those queried have said yes happy to receive professional pitches.

    I'll post here on how it goes and I hope it will be useful, encouraging, or educational for those embarking on a similar path. Regardless of the outcome of each individual pitch.

    One non-fiction pitch down.
    Three more non-fiction ideas and one fiction to go.

  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by NMott at 15:36 on 10 June 2011
    Would love to hear how you get on.
    Good luck!


    - NaomiM
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 16:11 on 10 June 2011
    Consider it done Naomi. I am, of course, giving it 2-4 months for responses. It can take that long.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by DorothyD at 10:40 on 12 June 2011
    Very best of luck with this.
    After some very hit and miss dealings with agents (no names, I promise but really: some of the answers I received, like 'do send me your book, historical fiction is hot at the moment' and then get back 'sorry, I don't do historical fiction' is enough to make you bang your head against the nearest wall!) so going it alone seems highly sensible. A good publisher will do all the promotion an agent would, without you losing the money to an agent, as it were.
    In the end, I went direct to a publisher with my historical fiction and sold not only the book but the entire series I have planned. It can be done!
    Keep posting your results, it will be encouraging to others. I am sure you are going to make it!!!!
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 10:32 on 14 June 2011
    Dorothy!

    What a fantastically inspiring message and story of your own triumphs. Thank you so much.

  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by DorothyD at 11:44 on 14 June 2011
    thank you! good to know I could offer something to this somewhat vexed conundrum.
    One day - if you don't get too bored with me going on and on and on (my fingers talk too much!) I will write out the seemingly endless saga of how I got the duke's book into print. Eventually.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 19:23 on 15 September 2011
    Update: 15/09/11

    Non-fiction: Had my first "we’re very interested in discussing further" response from a v.large publisher today. Have some TV interest too.

    Fiction: Have four requested partials with some bigwigs in crime publishing and one full.

    V.pleased so far. Still a bit like throwing jammy dodgers into a void. But so far editors are quicker, more responsive, and nicer to do business with than you would imagine.

    Will write all this up as an article in about six months. But hopefully, more news before then!!

  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by DorothyD at 19:27 on 15 September 2011
    that's SOOO good! and yes, they are, on the whole, very easy to get along with, they need writers to keep their business afloat!
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by Account Closed at 22:02 on 15 September 2011
    Well done,Shooter! Keep us posted.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by CarolS at 09:19 on 16 September 2011
    Congratulations! That's fantastic. All the best of luck for a deal sometime soon.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 09:32 on 16 September 2011
    Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for that deal! Or two! Will defo keep you all posted.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by Terry Edge at 09:49 on 16 September 2011
    But so far editors are quicker, more responsive, and nicer to do business with than you would imagine.


    I've always had the same experience. I suspect it's been in agents' interest, over the past 20 years or so, to spread it about that editors are going to bite off your head and tell all their other editor friends to do the same forever, if you try going to them direct. Editors haven't really discouraged this because of their (understandable) fear of the slush pile returning to their in-trays. But of course they're going to be open to exciting, professional and refreshingly unagented submissions, such as the sort I know you produce, sir.

    Terry
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by shooter at 12:11 on 16 September 2011
    Och Terry, I'm blushing at the flattery!

    When I was at Harrogate recently and met with one interested editor, she made a point of introducing me to sales and marketing over the weekend which kind of shows you who they have to get on-side internally if they want to get the green light from up the ladder.
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by Steerpike`s sister at 17:21 on 16 September 2011
    Fantastic news. Look forward to hearing more!
  • Re: Pitching without an agent
    by Freebird at 10:11 on 17 September 2011
    yes, it's such an encouraging story. And good to know that you didn't toss your jammy dogers in vain
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