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No Mystics Chapter 1 Part 1

by Mojo 

Posted: 22 February 2005
Word Count: 2193
Summary: This is the Prologue and part of Chapter One of my first novel.
Related Works: No Mystics - The Blurb • No Mystics Chapter 1 part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 1 part 3 • No Mystics Chapter 2 part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 2 part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 2 Part 3 • No Mystics Chapter 2 Part 4/Chapter 3 Part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 3 Part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 3 Part 3 • No Mystics Chapter 3 part 4 • No Mystics Chapter 3 part 5 • No Mystics Chapter 4 Part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 4 Part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 4 Part 3 • No Mystics Chapter 4 Part 4 • No Mystics Chapter 4 Part 5 • No Mystics Chapter 5 Part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 5 Part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 5 Part 3 • No Mystics Chapter 6 Part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 6 Part 2 • No Mystics Chapter 6 Part 3/Chapter 7 Part 1 • No Mystics Chapter 7 part 2 • No Mystics Synopsis and Blurb • 

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I was standing on my chair at the front of the class when I had the opposite of a religious experience. Sister Bridget made me do this every Monday morning, when she glided from class to class seeking out the slackers. I was convinced nuns were on castors. Like armchairs. Or Daleks. It’s an image I’ve never quite dispelled.
The headmistress’s opening line never varied. ‘Stand up those of you who did not take Communion yesterday.’
No point attempting to conceal the truth: nuns, like God himself, were omniscient. They had spies everywhere.
‘And those amongst you who failed to attend Mass – stand on your chairs.’
That’s me, folks. Usually there were one or two others; a little group of miniature dissenters, but on this occasion I was alone, the sole recipient of the weekly dose of humiliation. Which probably prompted my second sin. I raised my head, looked around me at the other ten-year-old Original Sinners with their mass-attending bums glued to their seats, and realised that they were all staring at me. There was awe, admiration, and maybe a touch of fear in their eyes. I was elevated above them; I was different; set apart. I smiled, basking in the glorious adulation.
I loved it. I fucking loved it.

1. ROOTED

MAY 1998
I was born in this house, in the cavernous main bedroom overlooking a half-acre tangle of garden, with fields, meadows and woodlands rolling away to the horizon. I lived here until November 1969, a month before my seventeenth birthday, and left very suddenly, with no thought in my head but to get away. Not from the house, nor the overbearing landlord who was forever threatening to demolish it; nor from its rural isolation. I was escaping what lurked inside. It took much longer to escape what lurked inside me.
The house is in the middle of a row of three; a huge, double-fronted, child’s drawing of a house, dwarfing the neighbouring properties which form its wings. Sweet irony - I own all three now. Not that I live here, or even draw rent from the three couples who do. They’re all family, and I can well afford to indulge them, to allow them to live out their lives in this hallowed and haunted spot.
Haunted? Don’t run away. This isn’t a ghost story, although I’ll be relating one or two strange events along the way. Maybe it’s just me who’s haunted. My mother’s family lived in this house for generations, labouring on the estate farms, or in the mines, or doing domestic work in the manor house. When I was a kid you could feel those ancestors eddying through the damp air. They’re still here, although their presence is less palpable in the modernised comfort of the desirable residence my money has made it.
It’s hard to imagine what it was like when I lived here, but if I half-close my eyes I can still see it. Stone-flagged floors, coal fires and paraffin heaters; walls, ceilings and door-frames sagging and leaning as the house sank slowly into forgotten mine-workings below. Post-war Utility furniture scattered amongst genuine but daily used and abused antiques. Damp crept up the walls, peeled the rose-patterned wallpaper. Its musty odour made me a snuffly child with a permanent cough. God knows how I ever became a singer; or maybe I have the damp to thank for the gravelly edge to my voice I can conjure up at will. We didn’t have a fridge, any more than we had an inside toilet or a bathroom. We washed in the kitchen, or in the tin bath dragged into the middle of the living room.
I never found it odd. Even when I started school a couple of miles away and came in contact with kids who lived in neat terraces and council houses, with bathrooms and hot water and carpets, I didn’t consider myself underprivileged. Just the opposite. They didn’t have fields to run through, woods to hide in, streams to dam. I lived in paradise, but there was a price to pay for an idyllic childhood.

Why am I here, alone, contemplating my past? My mother Maria, who lives here with my stepfather John Tranter, would spontaneously combust if she knew. With John’s co-operation we arranged a holiday for them. Not that Maria knows I had anything to do with it, or she’d have refused to go. They’re staying in my stepbrother Martin’s villa in Tenerife, with Eddie and Doreen, one set of next-door-neighbours, for company. My villa is just across the swimming pool from Martin’s, but Maria wouldn’t stay in that. The other three villas on that complex belong to the rest of the seven-piece band the world knows as No Mystics. At the moment they are all occupied by parents, brothers, sisters, nephews and nieces of the five men and two women who have become, much to our own bewilderment, multi-millionaires; instantly recognisable figures who can’t walk down the street without being stared at.
Around here, in the village of Pewfall, in the neighbouring towns of Haydock and Ashton, and even further out in St Helens and Wigan, Liverpool and Manchester, we are mostly studiously ignored. We are locals, after all. Most of the band still live round here, although I moved further away, to even greater silence and isolation, in a Cheshire farmhouse half a mile from Eric Smith’s racehorse training yard, where I worked, happily and long ago, as a teenage work-rider.
Yet I still haven’t told you why I’m here; why I went to so much trouble to get my mother out of the way for a week or so. Our record company boss, Russ Richardson, was contacted several weeks ago by a certain Tony Morris, a music journalist who has followed the band faithfully since he witnessed our first professional performance at the Marquee Club, London, in February 1971. He tentatively suggested that he be allowed to write an authorised biography of me and the band. Me, specifically, because I’m the frontman, the lead vocalist; the enigmatic one, or so I’m told. The one who, despite a distinct lack of height, good looks and leather trousers, is considered a sex-symbol. Russ passed on the request expecting my usual emphatic no. He was amazed when I agreed to Tony’s proposal.
There are scores of unauthorised books about the band, none of which come even close to the truth. None of those authors could penetrate further back than the day I left Pewfall and moved to John Tranter’s Haydock council house. Frith Griffith, they think, grew up in that council house, under the calm and kind influence of his mother’s second husband John. All wrong. My mother didn’t move in until I did, and she didn’t marry John until 1979. In fact, I was only there two months before I moved on and began work at Eric’s. Then there’s the album covers. Even now I don’t look much like the airbrushed, expertly photographed rock icon whose image adorns our wares – although the trademark deep blue stare is real enough – but who the hell was that cadaverous excuse for a man exhibited on our early work? I was a junkie, they reckon. Bollocks. I’ve done a few drugs in my time, but I’ve never touched that particular poison. I was my problem, not drugs.
Tony Morris knows all this; I told him, twenty years ago. I also threatened to break his face if he published any of it. I suppose I feel guilty about that threat, because he kept his promise. He’ll be here soon, with his suitcase and laptop and tape recorder. He thinks we’re staying here so he can interview me in a place which evokes my childhood memories and nightmares. It was his idea, actually.
He’s thinking conventional biography: born eight-twelve-fifty-two, Pewfall, Lancashire; Catholic primary followed by secular grammar school. That’s not the way it’s going to be. His job is to tidy up and edit my memories; I’m a songwriter, after all, not a writer of prose. And someone, perhaps him, perhaps our bass player Brian Isherwood, is going to turn the surreal reality of my life into an almost fictional account. A truthful fictional account. I’ve already read some of the book he is coming here to write. I always wondered who would write it, but now it makes sense. A collaboration between me, my most philosophical friend Brian, and our oldest fan Tony Morris, the man who, twenty-three years ago, unwittingly saved my life.

Tony arrives at the back door; his car is parked on the wide drive which used to be our yard, next to the dark green MX5 I’ve just collected from the showroom. He looks at it, no doubt thinking that classy car it may be, but somewhat downmarket for a man of my means. Actually, it isn’t mine. It’s a present for someone with a birthday at the end of May. Extravagant, but I can afford it. That said, I’ve never really got used to being wealthy, and at times it makes me feel uneasy, not to say guilty, when I’m with my less fortunate friends. Not that I’d go back to being poor; as I recall it, that wasn’t a bundle of laughs, either.
I lead Tony through the kitchen and up the stairs, where he dumps his bags in the room I’ve prepared for him. All the while he is looking around him, taking in his surroundings, studying me surreptitiously. He hasn’t seen me for a few years; not close up, anyway. He thinks he knows me quite well, but there are things he hasn’t a clue about. The main one being - well, I’ve set up a surprise for him, but he won’t find out about it until we move out of my mother’s house and go to my own home. He is looking, I think, for signs of ageing; silver hairs amongst the red, deep lines around my eyes. He doesn’t find them, I hope. I’m remarkably well preserved for one whose body has been abused both by myself and by others.
I collect my laptop from the living room and set it up on the kitchen table. Tony is amazed that I can use a computer. Someone, Martin I think it was, once called me Mr Technophobe. I played keyboards back then as well as lead vocals. I was a keyboard player who refused to learn how to use a synthesiser. Tony seems a bit put out that I’ve started without him, but he settles down at the table to read what I’ve written, while I make coffee and roll a joint.
He looks up at me and smiles when he’s finished. ‘Shouldn’t that read “longest-serving fan?” I can’t be No Mystics’ “oldest” fan; I’m only forty-seven.’
‘You read that into it, not me,’ I reply, flicking open my Zippo to light the joint. He looks at the screen again, frowning as he reads more closely. He’s remembering that day in 1975 when he saved my life. He was working for one of the music weeklies at the time. His favourite band, No Mystics, had gone strangely quiet following a successful tour. We’d recently broken out of cult-band obscurity and we needed publicity to avoid sliding back. But requests for interviews went unanswered. His journalistic curiosity burning, he took matters into his own hands and knocked on the door of my Portobello Road flat. After a while, the door opened and Tony’s jaw dropped. Frith Griffith, the short but well-muscled ex-stable-lad, had turned into a walking skeleton. For a moment he was speechless, then professionalism won the day.
‘I, er, wondered if we could arrange an interview?’
‘No.’
‘But what about the band? What’s happening?’
‘Ask them. I’m not in it any more.’
Shit, an exclusive! Frith Griffith had left No Mystics! But it gave him no pleasure to be the first to hear it, and my appearance worried him deeply. Rather than rush back to the office to publish his snippet of information, Tony phoned Russ Richardson, who was in Manchester in his shiny new office in the recently extended and refurbished studio complex financed by our success. Russ was too busy, and too furious at me for putting his expansion plans at risk, to do anything himself. But soon our road manager, Joe Barnaby, was breaking the speed limit on the M6.

Tony’s eyes refocus as he looks up. ‘What do you mean, you’ve already read the book I’m here to write?’
‘We’ll get to that,’ I tell him. ‘You know, that day you knocked on my door, I could quite cheerfully have strangled you. I didn’t want to live. I didn’t want to commit suicide, either - maybe my Catholic upbringing made me think starving myself to death wasn’t really killing myself; it’d just sort of happen naturally. Anyway, after you alerted Russ they all descended on me. Martin was busy having his own nervous breakdown. All of a sudden the flat was full of people, then everything went black. The next thing I knew I was waking up in hospital.’






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Anj at 22:39 on 24 February 2005  Report this post
Mojo,

I found this really engaging, hooked as soon as I started reading it. I love the easy, human voice you've found for your MC - although I began thinking it was a woman, but perhaps that's because I know you are?

Usually, I have to say, I find descriptions of childhood circumstances a bit tedious, but here not at all. I loved that the poverty didn't matter, he had the fields, the freedom. Suggested an inner life that brings your MC to life.

I loved too the mysteries you hinted at, they pulled me in further.

I felt though that there are too many names; for me, I'd prefer to see all but the essential ones excised and introduced later to make less confusing reading.

I also felt there was a slight POV problem when Frith was telling us how Tony's impressions of that day he turned up at the flat. Perhaps you could just insert that Tony told him ....

Great stuff, look forward to reading the next instalment.

Take care
Andrea

Mojo at 20:04 on 25 February 2005  Report this post
Andrea,

Thanks for your comments - as a new, 'trial' member, I was worried that no one would bother, and was put off trying to 'promote' my work somehow by A) being too shy; B) seeing the same names cropping up over and over on the site, and C) never having used an internet forum, chatroom or whatever in my life, not being sure how to! So I waited for someone else to make the first move. I feel a bit more confident about becoming a full member now.

I perhaps should have 'hidden' my identity, as then there might be less ambiguity about the gender of my protagonist. I've been told twice (by tutors on my Creative Writing degree) that I 'write like a bloke' - once as a general observation, the other as a criticism that was meant as an insult, by a woman who didn't think women had any right to write about men ('cause she didn't like men.) It worries me that, statistically, men aren't supposed to read many books by women, so on the off-chance that I ever do get a novel published, I'll probably just use my initials and surname, as I don't think my work is in any way gender-specific.

I'm glad you liked the descriptive paragraphs, as I normally avoid lengthy descriptions. This one is meant to provide some insight into why Frith, whilst definitely not a loner, is certainly an individual. And I take your point about the number of names that crop up. Mentioning key players here and saying who they are is a way of avoiding introducing them in the next 'scene', which plunges straight into the middle of the story.

The POV is a bit strange in the para. you mention. I've looked at it lots of times and failed to come up with an alternative that isn't 'telling not showing'. Later on there are flashback scenes in third person, from different characters' POVs (should that be PsOV?!) This is the 'book within the book' element, which is hinted at in this scene when Frith says that he's already read the book that Tony's coming here to write. Anyway, I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear that it isn't ALL written in the present tense! That would be just too exhausting for all concerned.

Julie



Anj at 20:15 on 25 February 2005  Report this post
Julie,

It can be a bit slow when you're new, simply, I think, because no one knows your work so isn't yet keeping an eye out for it - but it soon speeds up. You could try making a post in the Introduce Your Work Forum; also critting other people's work brings you to their attention and often leads to reciprocal crits. I remember feeling very shy myself when I first joined, but if you just get stuck in it'll soon pass ;)

Re the descriptive para providing insight into Frith, it certainly does that.

Look forward to reading more

Take care
Andrea

old friend at 16:10 on 26 February 2005  Report this post
Julie,

I also thought your MC was a girl. I just wonder what that person meant when you were told that 'you wrote like a man'and I loved that stupid comment by the second tutor... what the blazes is someone like that doing as a tutor to writers? Both of them sound a little like inmates of a Cuckoo's nest.

Your changing tenses works - but only just, I feel. I suggest that you look at the length of your paras... small point but it could improve the flow of your writing.

I have never firmly supported that 'show not tell' adage but as you have mentioned it I did get a nagging in my brain about this when I was reading.

However you have a very fluent style and even though my interest in the fortunes of a pop band can be said to be less than nil, I can say I enjoyed this. By the way, Welcome.

Len





FX at 17:09 on 26 February 2005  Report this post
Hi Julie,

Like everyone else so far, I simply assumed that Frith was a girl. I'm astounded that anyone could think you "write like a bloke". For whatever it's worth, here's my two pennies: If you want your speaker to sound like a man, try making him more negative. We blokes tend to be a surly lot, less reliant on the company of others and conseqently less heedful of their feelings. Apparantly, this comes from the ancient times when we spent days crouching silently in the long grass waiting to trap antelope while you girls were sharpening your social skills trotting around in groups gathering roots and berries. Or so I read, anyway.

Let me give you an instance: in the opening paragraphs, you describe (as only a Catholic could) what happened to the young Frith on Monday morning having missed Mass, and then say, "I fucking loved it". Sorry, Julie, but only a girl could love that kind of attention. It would have destroyed a young boy, although I can understand how, when he got a bit older, he might come to like the spotlight.

Throughout the piece the entire tone is garrulous and female. For instance, where Frith threatens to break Tony's face, it struck me that such a threat is most likely to come from a woman's mouth; "I'll break your face" is not something a man would say. I will now risk life and limb by saying that if Frith really was a man, he'd probably have left out about one third of what you've put in here.

Bear in mind that there's nothing particularly wrong with your writing as such. It's interesting, and I'm curious to know why his mother won't have anything to do with him, how he's read what hasn't been written yet, etc; it's just that the whole thing feels discordant by making Frith a man. If he was a she, what you've written would read much smoother.

Hope I haven't offended. A terrific example of a writer who writes from across the gender divide is Val McDirmid (sp?), author of the "Wire in the blood" books. When I first read one of her novels, I was astonished later to find that the "Val" did not stand for "Valentine"; I had assumed from the writing that the author was a man. Try one or two of her books.

FX

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PS Welcome to the forum!

Dee at 09:11 on 27 February 2005  Report this post
Mojo, I really enjoyed reading this. It’s well written, flows easily, and I didn’t spot any typos. Unfortunately I read the comments before the story, so I don’t know whether I would have thought your MC was female or not. I’m sure you could add in a little detail at the start. For instance, the headmistress could say:
‘Stand up those boys who did not take Communion yesterday.’

Have to say, I had trouble with the name, Frith Griffith. Nothing wrong with either name but, together, they’re a tongue-twister. The name made me stop reading while I thought about it, and that’s the last thing you want your readers to do… but maybe it’s just me.

I’m intrigued by FX’s comments. I prefer writing from a male POV and I don’t think anyone has questioned it before. Yours reads fine to me but, as I’m not a man, I’m perhaps not best to judge.

Love the title – for the novel and for the band.

Dee


Mojo at 18:28 on 27 February 2005  Report this post
Thanks, everyone, for your very welcome comments. I haven't got much time right now as I am, quite literally, waiting for paint to dry - so I can stick another coat of emulsion on the living room. You'd be amazed how much white paint it takes to cover up previously red and green walls... Anyway, I'll try to deal with the points made one by one.

Len - I agree wholeheartedly about 'show not tell' - despite a degree in Creative Writing I still can't tell the difference, sometimes. Well known 'pro' novelists get away with 'telling', as far as I can see. It's just one of the many things drummed into us aspiring writers; another rule we try to adhere to, but then surely the whole point of being 'creative' is to break rules occasionally? It's supposed to be about 'gripping the reader' - but I think tone and pace do that. Necessarily, there's rather a lot of 'telling' in No Mystics, as otherwise it'd make War and Peace look like flash fiction. And don't worry - it's not really about the band, or how they 'make it'. I just have a tendency to make my protagonists musicians as I'm married to one (who, sadly, never did 'make it'), and I (mis)spent my youth 'on the road' with his band, so it's almost a case of 'write what you know'.

FX - cards on table here. I absolutely DETEST gender stereotypes. I can't think of a single person I've ever met who could claim to be wholly male or wholly female. Boys don't like attention? Gimme a break. My late mother-in-law was a professional dancer, and used to leave her only son (my husband) in the care of a chorus-girl while she was on stage. When she appeared in 'Carousel', her 4-year-old escaped his guardian during the interval and went for a 'ride' on the carousel. The whole audience went 'aaah!' and clapped - so he did it the next night, and the next... and STILL laps up that kind of attention 46 years later. As for all that (tongue-in-cheek?) stuff about social skills - men are solitary and women have support networks of female friends? Bollocks. Men go to sports matches in packs and gather in the pub (now I'm stereotyping - they don't all do it), while women spend hours on the phone to each other and meet to gossip over bottles of wine. Well, hey, my only CLOSE female friend is my sister, and if we can drag a phone conversation out to two minutes it's a marathon, whereas our husbands can natter on forever (to each other and to their other male friends), as our itemised phone bill attests. The point about Frith is that he's a very unblokey bloke, as he points out himself a bit further on in Chapter 1, but I don't think he's particularly unusual in that. His character traits have come from observation of many sources, although his major hang-ups and phobias are entirely from my imagination. The phobia he develops in his early twenties, which leads to the suicide attempt he's talking about at the end of this extract, is something no man would want to admit to - but he does, despite claiming that he feels a bit like the bloke in the doctor's waiting room, wondering if he really can go in and say he's impotent. That's not the problem, by the way, just an analogy. The point is that he IS garrulous, like lots of men I know, and when it comes to telling a secret, he just can't help himself.

Dee - I agree that Frith Griffith is a bit of a mouthful - it's difficult to say out loud without spitting! But I do think that having an 'odd' name is extremely character-forming, and I wanted his early years to have been blighted by it. It was bad enough for me being the only Juliana in the county who wasn't a nun, so I have some experience here. Frith is his mother's maiden name. I nicked it from Paul Gallico, whose heroine in 'The Snow Goose' was called Fritha. I read that when I was about 17, but it stuck in my mind, and one day when I was working for 'the biggest building society in the world' I saw the name Frith Griffith written on the front of a mortgage file. Actually, it was just the surnames - Miss Frith was buying a house with Mr Griffith - but I liked it, and it stuck.

I think, after all the comments about gender, it might be good to make his 'maleness' clear from the outset, but I can't use the nun suggestion as it's a mixed school. The 'Mass-police' nun every Monday morning was the worst part of my week as a kid - that and getting 3 slaps of the ruler every Friday for getting fewer than 6 questions right in the arithmetic test. Is it any wonder these things keep cropping up in my writing?

Account Closed at 10:53 on 04 March 2005  Report this post
I really enjoyed this - you have an absolutely fantastic first line!! Also the writing style is easy to read and your MC is extremely engaging, with a great "voice". I don't have an issue with his gender, and in fact I thought he was a bloke from the off. Then again, I'm happiest writing stuff in a male point of view, as I never know what women are supposed to think (having missed that lesson at School), so I suppose I can't really talk!

I'd definitely read on, and I know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about popular beat combos!!!...

:))

LoL

A
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Nell at 07:56 on 11 March 2005  Report this post
Hi Mojo, now this is interesting. I came to this piece via the forum, and somehow muddled your thread and FX's (Mojo's Revenge) in my mind, so my expectation was that here was a male trying to write from a female POV. I got to the end of the first para thinking you had a real problem on your hands, since to me your narrator was definitely male. On reaching the word 'frontman' I wondered what was going on until at the second ref. to your narrator's sex I realized what had happened with the threads. Reading back on previous comments I do think FX is right that a man would say less than this overall, but reading again the only thing that didn't ring true was the word 'actually', which did seem feminine rather than masculine. We're all a mixture of male and female and I don't think it's possible to draw a definite line between the sexes, but it's a good idea to indicate the sex of the narrator early on in a piece of writing unless mystery or ambiguity is what you're aiming for.

Nell.

Al T at 16:18 on 11 March 2005  Report this post
Hi Julie, this sounds like a bloke to me, although I certainly agree with other commentators that this is not immediately obvious. However, one thing jumped out at me as unconvincing, which was your MC saying he'd become a success "despite a distinct lack of height." Surely he's perceptive enough to know that this is a spur not a barrier. Just look at all the Hollywood stars and successful businessmen who are vertically challenged. I've met enough men with major Napoleon complexes to believe that it's a big driver to rise above the tall guys who tormented them at school and stole the pretty girls.

I do like your writing style - in particular, the bit about nuns as Daleks! - but I'm afraid that I'm not very drawn by the subject. I'm afraid the topic of rock stars makes me feel "so what?" Few seem to have much depth and their lifestyles seem so vacuous. However, I know there are many people out there who have different views and would probably be fascinated by this.

Btw, isn't former music journo Tony Parsons currently writing a book on a similar theme, or have I imagined that?

Adele.

Mojo at 19:10 on 11 March 2005  Report this post
Nell

Thanks for your comments, even if I did get them by default! You're probably right about 'actually', if only because it's a word I use too often and sometimes remove when I edit work - but not always, because people - even men - do use it. Round here it sounds more like 'atcherly', which is the way Frith would pronounce it, but I never, never try to reproduce accents on paper. And why wouldn't a man say so much? Most of the men I know can talk the hind leg off the proverbial donkey. Maybe that's just Northern men; not known for their reticence.

Adele

I'm glad he's finally sounding like a bloke! For everyone who has doubted it, he does make it fairly clear quite early on, in the part you mention when he says he's a frontman. What he doesn't say is that his 'success' is despite his lack of height. What he actually (there we go again) says is: 'The one who, despite a distinct lack of height, good looks and leather trousers, is considered a sex-symbol.' He hasn't got a Napoleon complex, he's just being self-deprecating, as he's well aware that if he wasn't in his position he'd be just another ordinary-looking bloke. It's an area where the sexes probably do differ; famous blokes get legions of female fans who think they're gorgeous regardless of what they look like - I mean, Meatloaf? Pur-lease... But it doesn't seem to happen to famous women. Is Dawn French a sex-symbol for blokes? I doubt it.

I think, later on, it will become apparent that his occupation isn't central to the story, as it definitely isn't about how he 'makes it.' He could've been a plumber, I suppose, but the likelihood of anyone wanting to write a book about him would have been fairly remote, and what is central to the story is the 'book within a book' theme.

If Tony Parsons is writing a book with a similar theme I'll have to have a ceremonial burning of my copy of 'Man and Boy'. Considering how often my novel has returned in pristine condition from various slush piles I'd be VERY put out!

Julie

Mojo at 21:18 on 11 March 2005  Report this post
Adele

Thanks for the link. Despite the fact that I despised Tony Parsons and, even more so, his ex-wife Julie Burchill back in the 1970s when he was a music journalist, I really enjoyed his first 3 novels (haven't read the latest yet). Sadly, in this interview he does rather confirm the negative opinion of him I had almost 30 years ago. His proposed book does have one premise which resembles mine - it's a bunch of musicians looking back on events of 20 years earlier - but in mine they're mostly examining the actions of one man over a period of time, and he says his is about the events of one night. Must've been some party. I don't think I could stretch one night into a novel...

Reading that interview I've just had two terrible thoughts, neither of which had occurred to me before: the journalist in No Mystics, who is in all honesty more of a plot device than a character, is called Tony. Secondly, my second novel is about a bloke who brings his son up on his own. Fortunately, my character isn't a Tony Parsons glamorous media-type; he's a Lancastrian riding instructor who lives in a caravan. And to think that because my work, like Parsons', is about relationships (I know that's not apparent yet but it is, honest!), I had considered trying his publisher/agent. Not that I'm trying anyone at the moment; I'm sort of in resigned-to-my-amateur-status fate mode right now.

Julie

Al T at 22:16 on 11 March 2005  Report this post
Julie, even if you're writing about broadly the same subject, I'm sure your book is significantly different from his. I haven't read any of his novels, although I used to read him in the NME when I was a teenager, and don't feel at all drawn to his work, thanks, primarily to his public persona. There's always room for a fresh voice. Why shouldn't it be yours? If you really, really want to be a published author, then you must keep going and hammer on every available door.

Best of luck,

Adele.

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Btw, it was the fact that your journo was called Tony that made me think of Parsons, and that's not necessarily a bad thing for you as it makes your character seem more real.

scottwil at 13:54 on 13 March 2005  Report this post
Mojo, I came to this piece after snooping around the Synopsis Group and reading your posting.

The opening line is just sensational and the rest of the prologue is tremendous. I was thrown by the gender thing but only because I'd checked your profile and was expecting a female MC - not a voice issue for me, just an expectation thing. The MC's description of himself sets this straight pretty early on for me in any case.

In my opinion, the writing is absolutely first class.
I was however thrown by the tense change midway and structurally I'm not a huge fan of all the temporal skidding around in an opening chapter.

But, as I say, the writing is excellent and you can get away with quite a bit when your command of the language is as deft as this.

Name-wise, I rather like Frith Griffith - my late Great-Uncle was a well-known character-actor by the name of Hugh Griffith and I have a character in one of my plays called Ionnedd Llwllyn Ap Griffith, although he calls himself Alvis (the Welsh Elvis). Anyway, you should look at some of Shay Boston's stuff, he's got a character in one of his stories called Barry Qualitair, which I think is just wonderful.

Best
Sion






Mojo at 15:45 on 13 March 2005  Report this post
Thanks, Sion, my head has now swelled to twice its normal size! I have to say, I've had more REAL help with my work and much more of a confidence boost after a few short weeks in Writewords than I did in three years of a Creative Writing degree course!

I do a lot of 'skidding around' with tenses and PsOV. My latest novel is written in 3rd person past tense with flashbacks in 1st person present. In No Mystics it works as a way of getting into the heads of other important characters and observing the MC from their POV. And names! I can spend hours just thinking of names for the most inconsequential characters. I just love the ones you mention. BTW Frith's got an uncle (not a major character, fortunately!) called Huw Griffith!

Julie

scoops at 10:11 on 16 March 2005  Report this post
Mojo, the first four hundred words of this extract are sublime, and what follows is the first draft of a novel that reads as if it will be utterly compelling. Your narrator has a terrific voice - urgent of thought but laconic in delivery, detached but introspective. There is too much telling at this point and I think you get into the main narrative too quickly after such a measured start, but these are small problems consistent with new writing and will no doubt be ironed out when you've got to the end, have a full measure of what it is you're saying, and then fill in the gaps. Fab. Shyama

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ps, Reading through the other comments, I too was confused about gender at the beginning because this was so clearly a male voice, but the opening scene with nuns suggested to me that that incident was happening in a girl's school. I assumed, when I discovered with relief that Frith was indeed a man, that it was my ignorance about catholic schooling that had led to my misunderstanding. It might be worth doing something up front to clarify gender:-)

bigAL at 11:28 on 16 March 2005  Report this post
Julie,

I've read your profile and your first chapter. Quite why you aren't published is beyond me. I suggest you go to ASDA, pick up a book and search to find one that's considerably more worthy than this. I'll give you an hour...

Done it?

Wasn't any there, was there? One? There's always one, don't take that personally. My nightmare is named Dean Koontz.

This is excellent, Julie. Please don't doubt it. The foreshadowing is great and I'm excited to read the next chapter. I hope to God this is much better than you other stuff, or you've really wasted your talent thus far.

Amazing, completely and absolutely.

Regards,
bigAL

Sascha at 20:15 on 10 August 2005  Report this post
So, back from the dungeon of uni finals for this returning student and read your story from the beginning as promised. Took notes along the way you will stick them in the appropriate spots in your uploads...


Loved, loved, loved the Catholic school flashback! Classic, perfect (thirteen year survivor here, so I am biased ;)).

I’m not a fan of when the mc talks to me in a book, but that is a personal preferences thing I know, I liked hearing everything from his point of view but the “Haunted? Don’t run away.” line threw me off and I noticed it was the only in this chapter that so directly addressed the reader even if he was talking in a casual and likeably personal way to the reader throughout.

This all came out so naturally and easily, it read very nicely. On to more…

Mojo at 15:27 on 17 October 2005  Report this post
Hi Bege, and thanks for your comments. It's never too late for another opinion, especially as I never, never, never show my work to friends and family, and therefore the only people that ever see it are on Writewords - except for when I did my degree, and that had to be all short fiction and poetry (neither of which I write, as a rule), so my novels didn't get a look-in.

I agree about the 'show-don't-tell' rule, although I understand why it exists. For me, in this novel, it's a balancing act between 'show' scenes and what I can allow Frith to 'tell', otherwise it'd be horribly, horribly long. My first ever word-processed version - I'd hand-written a version before that! - was 220,000 words. It's 167,000 now and getting shorter every time I work on it.

The description in this section is pretty much a one-off, and done for character-building as much as scene-setting. I'm usually quite sparse, so it's entirely possible that some of the waffle about the old house might go in the next draft.

Julie

Earl Grey at 16:08 on 14 February 2006  Report this post
Firstly i know i'm ooming to this late, but I guess it's a familiar dilemma - can one usefully beginning critiquing a novel amidships? I think not. Well either way, I hope the following comments are still of some use:

1st thoughts - 1st para - corking.

ok - finished. Like a lot of the others I too thought that the MC was female initially, but it wasn't disruptive. And on the gender debate, there's no such thing. I don't believe in male writing, female writing, black, gay or any-other-pigeon-hole writing: it's either good, or it's not. In the context of this piece, it's important that your MC has an authentic male voice, and he does.

will be catching up on the rest over the coming days/weeks.

Mojo at 16:39 on 14 February 2006  Report this post
Thanks for reading, Earl - there's no such thing as too late, and I welcome all comments.

It's been an eventful year since I posted this - I rather hoped to have done another edit and got it sent out to agents by now, but that hasn't yet happened. But it will, it will!

Julie

Ava at 18:31 on 21 February 2006  Report this post
Hey Mojo, I see you've gotten a lot of comments already and I'm a tad late :) But I had to comment because I thought this was very engaging, so interesting to read and a great change. Its so unusual to have this man's background and then he ends up as a rock and roll star, I would imagine the nuns would have quite a hold on a person throughout their lives but he seemed to use it as inspiration to rebel,
I smiled, basking in the glorious adulation.
I loved it. I fucking loved it.

- very very good!

This was my favourite description -
It’s hard to imagine what it was like when I lived here, but if I half-close my eyes I can still see it. Stone-flagged floors, coal fires and paraffin heaters; walls, ceilings and door-frames sagging and leaning as the house sank slowly into forgotten mine-workings below. Post-war Utility furniture scattered amongst genuine but daily used and abused antiques. Damp crept up the walls, peeled the rose-patterned wallpaper. Its musty odour made me a snuffly child with a permanent cough.


You seem to have the struture and editing near perfect so I have nothing negative to say.

I would like to see more of this, I have lots to catch up on. :)

Sarah

Mojo at 17:33 on 26 February 2006  Report this post
Hi Sarah, and thanks very much for your comments. I've not been about the site much for the last few days, hence the delay in replying, and also in catching up with everyone else's work, which I intend to do tomorrow (but I've been saying that for 3 days, and keep getting waylaid, or my husband, who's only just discovered the existence of the internet, keeps nicking my broadband connection. We really must get a wireless system set up in this house...

I've put this up in the Fiction group to see if it garners any other opinions, as it's been posted a year now, during which I haven't been able to do any real work on anything. My next move is to go back and re-edit the early chapters, then hopefully do the round of agents - if I ever get that short synopsis written (my current effort is 9 pages...)

Thanks a lot

Julie

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PS Glad you like the nuns - they're my early memory of school - nuns with sticks. Makes me sound much more ancient than I really am! And yes, I still have nightmares about them - although I also still have lovely but strange dreams about the house Frith describes, which is where I was born, but which, unlike his fictional birthplace, sadly no longer exists.

hannahjane at 23:12 on 17 January 2007  Report this post
At the moment I'm too short for time to read anything, but just skimming through this I saw the word "cavernous" which is a great word, and just caught sight of "door-frames sagging" - brilliant little phrase! That got me a little excited, that descp., even though I'm virtually asleep at the screen here. I'd like to come back and read this properly, then maybe I can comment properly. xx


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